Message to Democrats: You better, that’s what everyone is voting D for. Stop the madness, put safeguards in place to keep this from happening again.
put safeguards in place to keep this from happening again.
What safeguards will work against decades of oligarch-controlled media putting out fascist propaganda? What safeguards can Democrats put in with a mere majority when it takes a supermajority to make real changes?
Most importantly, and I hate to say it: What would Democrats do even if they had a su permajority when establishment Democrats are content to suck at the teat of the oligarchs?
While it’s worth the effort to elect Democrats, even establishment ones, because on economic issues they won’t help us much, on the issue of human rights in particular, there is a huge difference between the fascists and the establishment Democrats (and if that does’nt sound right, go read up on Christian nationalism and pay more fucking attention).
But even the bluest of blue waves is not going to help much on most fronts. But it will help on some fronts.
14A3 disqualification of Trump starting from J6 or earlier (traitors can not be elected, thus nullifying the whole second term)
With all pardons now nullified, all immunity erased, all appointments undone, prosecutions can begin.
vote green for the status quo comrade
No, it’s worse than that: Vote green to support fascism.
problem is impeachment is toothless it seems
i thought the houses could pass laws on their own but apparently that’s a supermajority as well so we’re fucked for 2 years
maybe the states can defederate and make a difference
They have to. Sure political fuckery and cowardice would likely derail their effort, but it’s a moral imperative. To those who say, ‘it’s pointless look what happened last two times’ look what’s currently happenening because Dems were too weak to fight and let his crimes slide.
I think the issue the last times was that Democrats took Omar’s advice too closely – “If you come at the King, you’d best not miss”, so they tried to focus their efforts on particular things they thought they could build a compelling story about: the Ukraine/Russia stuff in the first impeachment, and Jan 6 in the second. They didn’t fathom how Republicans would just ignore it all.
I used to be in the camp that if given a House majority, Democrats shouldn’t go there again. But I’ve changed my mind. They should definitely go there but this time put it all in. Every single thing that we all shook our heads and said “They wouldn’t have let anyone else getaway with it”. Send over 150 counts individually cited, with receipts.
If nothing else, if Republicans are in charge and summarily dismiss it, all the crazy shit they let him get away with will be on the record. And, if somehow Democrats gain control of the Senate, too, I’m sure Chuck (or whoever else is running things) will have no problem forcing a vote on each charge individually. Call it "Infrastructure Month " in the Senate…
Do a separate impeachment for each thing individually and gridlock Congress for two years.
No. They will not.
Hakeem is secretly meeting Kushner
AIPAC Dems are funding AIPAC Republicans over DSA candidates
Here is Tammy duckworth
https://youtu.be/Cm53m1L4Vas?is=tylEWtlOOoOuycnv
They won’t do anything and there will just be show trials with a new mueller/smith and a whole lot of “aww we just missed the margin for the vote, make sure you vote HARDER”
any democrat that isnt campaigning on 100% unfucking what Trump did, is a democrat in service to the republican agenda.
and its especially galling hearing someone like duckworth say shit like “well, we shouldnt be impeaching, and maybe we can kinda sorta maybe undo a fragment of what he did, perhaps by chance, because i think benefitting the american people means appeasing trump.”
yep, its really all the voters fault.
/s
In a sense, yes. Fool me once and all that.
I’m happy just to see how many impeachment tallies Trump can rack up, because I can’t think of anyone else more deserving of being the most impeached president.
But it’s a useless gesture, because you don’t need just a majority to remove the president from office, you need a supermajority. And that’s just not happening unless Trump manages to piss off the majority of Republicans, too.
SCOTUS decided to declare you only need an act of congress (51%) to declare somebody disqualified by 14A3
Let’s show them what that does when put to use
To predict the future we must look at the past:
- “Will the Jan 6 hearing recommend criminal charges for Trump?”
- “No.”
- “Will Biden direct his AG to prosecute Trump.”
- “No. In fact the AG should be a republican!”
- “Will democrats push Biden to get an AG who will prosecute Trump for Jan 6?”
- “No.”
- “Will democrats push Biden to prosecute Trump for stealing and hoarding classified documents?”
- “No.”
- “Will Biden revoke top security clearance of Trump election rigger and enemy saboteur Elon Musk for having secret meetings with V. Putin?”
- “No. Let’s tariff Chinese solar panels because solar panels are spies now.”
- “Will democrats stonewall the funding and creation of Trumps Nazi ICE army?”
- “Thank you ICE!”
In a democracy Biden shouldn’t attempt to influence any action against Trump. That’s the job of the Justice Department. Trump has made political judicial activism so normal that people just expect this kind of political interference.
Can we also impeach and remove Vance too?
Will they? Yes.
Will it matter? No.
If they can actually get an impeachment through it’d be one of the most significant moments in American political history.
I would think they would automatically start the impeachment proceedings. If they don’t, I think it answers the bigger question “Was there only one party all along? If so, is it the billionaire class that is steering the ship for us?”.
They should impeach him 1000x it will have the same outcome, but at least historians can note this as “The Democrats in the 2020s proved the impeachment process is worthless. Politics had become entirely ruined, the president had become completely unaccountable. Only he was above the law.”
Millions of impeachments, impeachments for me
Millions of impeachments, impeachments for free
Millions of impeachments, impeachments for me
Millions of impeachments, impeachments for free, look out!
I mean, why not? They’re great at hollow showmanship that does nothing meaningful, it’s their bread and butter!
What the hell else could be the point of winning control of Congress? Putting trump in a cell is the last hope for American democracy (if any such hope exists).
Maybe impeachment makes people feel better, but it practically does fuck all.
Every US impeachment ended in senate acquittal.
(Dick Nixon was not impeached).
I’m all for it, though a President Vance would be bad too
Who cares? He was already impeached twice and it literally had zero effect.
Just because Senate Republicans won’t convict didn’t mean the progressives and Democrats shouldn’t still impeachment and make a solid effort to hold Republicans accountable in manner that idiot America can understand.
They’ll keep trump around as long as they can. Being just to the left of trump gives them much more area to operate in than being truly a left leaning party. More bribe checks to cash. he’s the best thing to happen to the dem centrists since… the start of the republic maybe.
