Can we also impeach and remove Vance too?
They have to. Sure political fuckery and cowardice would likely derail their effort, but it’s a moral imperative. To those who say, ‘it’s pointless look what happened last two times’ look what’s currently happenening because Dems were too weak to fight and let his crimes slide.
I think the issue the last times was that Democrats took Omar’s advice too closely – “If you come at the King, you’d best not miss”, so they tried to focus their efforts on particular things they thought they could build a compelling story about: the Ukraine/Russia stuff in the first impeachment, and Jan 6 in the second. They didn’t fathom how Republicans would just ignore it all.
I used to be in the camp that if given a House majority, Democrats shouldn’t go there again. But I’ve changed my mind. They should definitely go there but this time put it all in. Every single thing that we all shook our heads and said “They wouldn’t have let anyone else getaway with it”. Send over 150 counts individually cited, with receipts.
If nothing else, if Republicans are in charge and summarily dismiss it, all the crazy shit they let him get away with will be on the record. And, if somehow Democrats gain control of the Senate, too, I’m sure Chuck (or whoever else is running things) will have no problem forcing a vote on each charge individually. Call it "Infrastructure Month " in the Senate…
Do a separate impeachment for each thing individually and gridlock Congress for two years.
Message to Democrats: You better, that’s what everyone is voting D for. Stop the madness, put safeguards in place to keep this from happening again.
put safeguards in place to keep this from happening again.
What safeguards will work against decades of oligarch-controlled media putting out fascist propaganda? What safeguards can Democrats put in with a mere majority when it takes a supermajority to make real changes?
Most importantly, and I hate to say it: What would Democrats do even if they had a su permajority when establishment Democrats are content to suck at the teat of the oligarchs?
While it’s worth the effort to elect Democrats, even establishment ones, because on economic issues they won’t help us much, on the issue of human rights in particular, there is a huge difference between the fascists and the establishment Democrats (and if that does’nt sound right, go read up on Christian nationalism and pay more fucking attention).
But even the bluest of blue waves is not going to help much on most fronts. But it will help on some fronts.
I’m happy just to see how many impeachment tallies Trump can rack up, because I can’t think of anyone else more deserving of being the most impeached president.
But it’s a useless gesture, because you don’t need just a majority to remove the president from office, you need a supermajority. And that’s just not happening unless Trump manages to piss off the majority of Republicans, too.
They should impeach him 1000x it will have the same outcome, but at least historians can note this as “The Democrats in the 2020s proved the impeachment process is worthless. Politics had become entirely ruined, the president had become completely unaccountable. Only he was above the law.”
Millions of impeachments, impeachments for me
Millions of impeachments, impeachments for free
Millions of impeachments, impeachments for me
Millions of impeachments, impeachments for free, look out!
I’m all for it, though a President Vance would be bad too
