To think she almost started a war with Iran, that would be devastating
Nobody didn’t vote for Kamala because of her laugh.
Diesel hit prices so high in some areas that the gas stations have to change their signs to accomodate double digit prices.
“Critics” blame trump…
Everyone should blame trump.
Butter emails v2
ITT a bunch of ml users complaining about how the two party system and first past the post voting sucks. Yeah, it does, but in the reality we live in, once the general election came up and your choices were Trump, Harris, 3rd party, or don’t vote, all choices save one helped Trump.
Cry and whine all you want, but that was the reality of the world in November 2022.
Then again, I doubt many of the ml users can even vote in the US elections due to not being actual US citizens, or maybe even human.
Anyone bringing up Gaza better be bringing up the deaths as a result of Trump’s cuts to USAid since that’s a significantly bigger number of deaths from a policy that the Democrats would absolutely have not implemented. Odd that I never hear these ml users mentioning those stats…
I’m an American Marxist-Leninist who won’t participate in your sick electoral kayfabe. You can call me Russian, a bot, dehumanize me, or whatever pathetic bigoted playbook you normally follow. I am real, I walk among you, and I will agitate and fight until the day I die.
There are thousands of us across the country. Millions across the continent. Billions across the globe. You can deny our existence, imagine us to be paper tigers, but like many reactionary movements before, it’s your political grave to dig.
“Cry and whine” is a fitting description for what liberals do every election cycle, actually. If leftists had it our way, we wouldn’t have to be subject to the bullshit of Capitalist elections at all. It’s the liberals who won’t shut the fuck up about how they can’t beat the other liberals and how that’s socialists faults.
Madness. Pathetic. Embarrassing. I can’t wait until people just like you are finally on the fringe.
What an intolerable string of word vomit.
If you still think it was the funny laugh and not the years of being a crooked cop and enthusiastic support for a genocide, you have chosen not to understand the people you want to put down. It’s not that you’re confused, you’re just an asshole.
You have 179 days to find a candidate to support that isn’t horrible. Maybe at least try this time? Or don’t whinge when the people whose vote you deliberately decided you don’t need in order to win don’t vote for your candidate and they don’t win.
You’re going to break an arm jerking yourself off that hard.
You’re gonna break the world sucking off Wall St that hard.
Cool.
“Do you want to go to the pizza place or the burger restaurant, Timmy?”
“I don’t want either! I want macaroni and cheese!”
“Macaroni and cheese is not an option, Timmy, now pick from what’s available or I’m deciding for you.”
“No! I’m not picking!”
“Okay, we’re going to the pizza place then.”
(1 hour later) “This pizza sucks! It’s all the burger place’s fault for not appealing to me hard enough by serving macaroni and cheese.”
Libs can’t help constantly telling on themselves by trivializing genocide to a mere personal preference.
“Take this gun Timmy, now do you want to murder these 10 people or those 11 people?”
“But I don’t want to murder anyone.”
“Fine then. If you’re going to be a child about this, I’ll murder the 11 people myself.”
Suddenly makes it a lot more clear that Timmy is the reasonable and sane one when you don’t trivialize mass murder into dinner preferences. But then, that would require seeing Palestinians as human beings.
that would require seeing Palestinians as human beings
ShitLibs having actual morals instead of just vibes challenge: impossible
You’re behaving as if Kamala would have fundamentally changed federal laws protecting free speech the way the Trump admin has. She wouldn’t have, nor would she have enacted Project 2025 in the way the Trump admin has.
Bottom line: not voting for Kamala was shooting yourself in the foot if you actually give a shit about protesting against Israel.
Oh, you’re talking about Palestine.
In that case, would you rather have a candidate that does nothing but pay lip service to your cause, or a candidate that actively donates your resources to destroy it?
Tough choice, I’m sure.
I do not feel bad about facetiously trivialising an argument about death and bloodshed into one about dinner in order to highlight the ridiculousness of the logic used.
In that case, would you rather have a candidate that does nothing but pay lip service to your cause, or a candidate that actively donates your resources to destroy it?
Huh? Are we pretending that we live in a fantasy world where the Biden administration didn’t bypass congress to send Israel more weapons? Because here in reality, both candidates objectively fell into the second category.
I do not feel bad about facetiously trivialising an argument about death and bloodshed into one about dinner in order to highlight the ridiculousness of the logic used.
The logic only looks ridiculous if you trivialize the stakes. You can make any logic look “ridiculous” if you compare it to something completely different.
No, the logic looks ridiculous when you try to bOtH sIdEs the two parties. Newsflash, there is more going on in the world besides the Israel Palestine conflict. Do you think Harris would have ended USAid? What about the Iran war?
The funding cuts to USAid alone are estimated to have lead to ~5-10x more deaths than anything in Gaza. Where is your outrage about that? Stop your bullshit.
I don’t agree with this oversimplified, utilitarian framework you’re using. “Lesser Evilism” is a specific philosophical and political framework, and one that is very naive and unexamined.
If a party is willing to screw over Palestinians today, then who will they screw over tomorrow? Trans people? Immigrants? Will you apply the same “lesser evilist” logic as minority groups get dropped off, one-by-one? This is exactly how the ruling class divides and conquers, and so long as that’s the state of things, no one’s rights could ever be secure.
Standing up for the lives of Palestinians is not only about Palestinians, it is about solidarity. Solidarity is a strategic decision to establish that no one will be abandoned and sold out, that we will not abandon the little guy just for the sake of securing an election. It is only through a foundation of solidarity that we will be able to build a successful movement that’s worth fighting for. To abandon Palestine would also mean abandoning those who are trying to build such a movement, causing it to fracture and strengthening the ruling class.
You can blame me for the ruling class’s actions all you want. If the only means I have to stop something they’re doing is to fracture the working class and side with a genocidiare, then I simply don’t consider that an option that’s available to me, and from my perspective, I don’t have any means to stop it. Except by working towards a future where ordinary people can unite with solidarity and take power back.
Suppose I had a suitcase nuke, and I could stop Trump from cutting USAID by setting it off in the middle of DC. Suppose that, when it’s all said and done, I’d have saved more lives than I’d taken. If I say that setting off a nuclear weapon in a city full of innocent people is simply not on the table for me, that I refuse to even consider it, does that make me a bad person, a reprehensible monster? Am I responsible for all the people who died from Trump’s cuts, because I didn’t kill a city full of innocents to stop it? Surely not. But then, if I refuse to support the destruction of Gaza in an effort to stop the cuts, how is that any different?
Lesser Evilism is a moral framework and a political strategy, but it is not sound or defensible when it’s identified as such and examined. But it generally isn’t, and is instead presented as “common sense” or “just rational.” Really, it’s just a vacuous rhetorical device used to justify tribalism.
You are right. But whinging is only thing y’all EVER do.
Perfect is the enemy of good. You live in a fantasy world, just like libertarians.
Perfect is the enemy of good.
And calling bombing brown kids “good” is the enemy of basic humanity.
That’s the super fucking stupid argument you keep making.
That is not a Democrat/Republican thing. It’s an America problem.
Framing it somehow as a Democratic plank is about as stupid as you can get.
It’s like saying I didn’t vote Democrat because Democratic senators get a paycheck.
Once again, you are either really stupid, or a disingenuous rage baiter.
Framing it somehow as a Democratic plank is about as stupid as you can get
I agree, yet every Dem candidate in recent memory has done exactly that. If it’s not a party plank it might as well be. If more than half of the party’s elected members are taking bribes from AIPAC, then the distinction between “a party plank” and “individual members’ policy preferences” is so blurry as to be irrelevant.
bOtH SiDeZ!!1!
