• jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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      And if she tries to take a position in '28, she’ll be hit with “Well, why didn’t you say that in '24?”

      At no point was she ever a good candidate.

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        There was a really brief window right after Biden dropped out and everyone just assumed she’d do things differently where she polled strongly iirc

        But then somebody asked her what she would do differently than Biden and she said (essentially), “Nothing, his policies were all completely perfect, his presidency was entirely perfect, and I am just going to try to follow his example” and then her numbers fell off a cliff and never recovered

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      She lost an unwinable election.

      No time in American history has an incumbent quit mid-campaign and had their VP win.

      No time in American history has a challenger survived an assassination attempt and lost.

      No time in American history has the incumbent party won with both an economic downturn and an unpopular war.

      That Harris nearly won is astounding. And since she’s eligible to run, it’s natural and sensible for her to be the default candidate.

      Any 2028 contender who can’t persuade dems that they’d be better than Harris shouldn’t bother.

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        I agree with your position that even the most popular candidate we’ve had in a long time – Obama – most likely would not have won that election, but we cannot know for sure. What we do know is that if you’re up against stacked odds, then you need to maximize – over-perform – with the quality of your candidate.

        I voted Harris. She was better than Trump in every conceivable way no doubt – and yes, including on Gaza and most certainly Ukraine, Climate Change, LGBTQ+ rights, etc., – but she was still just an average candidate. Can’t have average against stacked odds of billionaires putting their weight on the scales of democracy.

        The only persons I think could’ve won that is probably 2016 Bernie, or Michelle Obama.

        If Harris wants to run again in the Democratic Primaries, then sure, go for it. I hope we have lots to choose from. But honestly, I’d rather Michelle run.