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      A sham primary in which the DNC shut out new candidates, refused to have debates, and then coronated a new candidate anyway.

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        I’ll catch downvotes for this, but every incumbent president has a primary that is abbreviated and dominated by the incumbent. Biden is no different than Obama, Bush, etc. That said, you can and should still be critical of the DNC not hosting a full primary when Harris was tapped out.

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          That’s not an accident though, the party is choosing to shut out new candidates. I think it’s always wrong to do, because it puts even more power over our elections into the hands of billionaires.

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        If the DNC couldn’t stop Marianne Williamson from running against Biden, then they couldn’t stop anyone.

        And the DNC doesn’t run debates, they are generally run by the media networks.

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          The DNC removed delegates for an entire state during the primary, they argued in court in 2016 they didn’t have to respect the voters as a private company. They’ve been actively suppressing democracy in primaries ever since Obama skipped the line.

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            They removed the delegates of New Hampshire, because New Hampshire didn’t follow the rules. New Hampshire thought it was entitled to vote first even though it was clearly another state’s turn to vote first.

            Eventually the DNC ended up reinstating the NH delegates.

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        People were free to choose from a list of candidates. That’s equally “legitimate” as most primaries.

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      Here in California, we haven’t had a presidential democratic primary since 2016, and he wasn’t running then. Please explain how he won, when the DNC cancelled the 2020 primary before we even got to vote, and never had a 2024 primary?

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        I mean that’s obviously a lie. There’s documentation that proves primaries were held. I voted in mine.

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        There was a California primary in 2024.

        • Biden won 3,207,687 votes
        • Williamson won 146,356 votes

        Other candidates included

        • Eban Cambridge
        • Gabriel Cornejo
        • Stephen P Lyons
        • Armando “Mando” Perez-Serrato
        • Dean Phillips
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          I was signed up for mail in voting, and never got a primary ballot in 2020. Got one in 2024 but of course there wasn’t a presidential primary option.

          Also how many votes did Bernie get, cause we had tons of Bernie voters here in 2016 and 2020

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        What are even talking about? I voted by mail in both 2020 and 2024 primaries, in California.