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      the gist, as I understand, is that the argument that was presented is basically “the purpose of the 14th amendment was only to grant citizenship to newly freed slaves; children of parents who do not intend to permanently live in the US, or who still feel allegiance to a foreign country, are not intended to be included.” Barrett’s response was essentially “your argument is self-contradictory. many parents of newly freed slaves did not feel allegiance to the US and wished to return to the countries that they or their ancestors were taken from against their will. the amendment cannot have been intended to both include and exclude their children.”

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      Trump’s solicitor general was saying the 14th amendment wasn’t intended to cover the children of people here illegally, that it was intended for slaves.

      Barrett argued that slaves were brought here illegally, so his basis is flawed.

      It goes on about the governments position on domiciled people’s vs jus soli, based on soil, and jus sanguinis, based on descent and how basing citizenship on decent could get confusing very quickly therefore the writers of the 14th amendment clearly intended on jus soli.

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    Heh, anyone pointing out the Trump’s are birthright citizens seems to’ve missed the Trump gold card citizenship racket that’s paired with anything related to citizenship revocation. If they change the law, rich people just pay some money to buy a gold citizenship card. Trump’s family would likely get theirs paid for by tech bros, wouldn’t even need to pay out of pocket.

    While white nationalist racists are a part of Trump’s base, and are likely in favour of this law getting changed, thinking it’ll help their agenda… it’s really just another attack on poor/middle class people.

    At this point, as a non-American, I’m fine with them disenfranchising most of their population and declaring them non-citizens. For regulated industries, it’d make things like FATCA reporting much simpler, and it’s not as though those ‘citizens’ deserve any respect/special consideration – look at the guy they elected as their leader. Who they still follow. Even as he openly makes moves to strip them of their rights.

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      no. don’t be fooled, there are a lot of evil people who are smart, intelligent and actively ruining society

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        Elon Musk is just as dumb and incompetent. I think they just are great at marketing and having money to waste

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    Yeah well trump’s assholes were arguing “nuh uh” against The Constitution.

    I would seriously hope most of us could unravel that demented rapist drooled-on garbage easily enough. FFS.