“This is how we should order our lives together,” he said. “And frankly, yes, we are going to impose it upon you. If you don’t like it, I’m sorry, but this is good and right and just if it lines up with God’s standards, and I am going to enforce my morality on you in as much as our morality is God’s morality.”
“You should always check yourselves,” he continued. “Do I believe what God believes? Am I defending what God says is good?”
“And if it is, then you should have the courage to say, ‘This is how we’re going to run our town, this is how we’re going to run our county, this is how we’re going to run our state, and this is how we should run the United States of America by legislating the morality that we can find in the Bible.'”
“Sharia law” by any other name.
Sharia Law permits abortions in some cases.
I remember a particular asshat on DP forums that would try to get me booted all the time, and always crying that there is no such thing as xtian Shariah Law and that calling xtianists talibangelicals was so very unfair and so mean, and oh my god, the civility of it all!
The xtianists definitely have Shariah Law even if, sure, they don’t call it that, duh.
Other than the days they worship and a few other differences about ritual and so on, explain the difference between backward dumbasses of the fundamentalist stripe of either of these Abrahamic religions?
Both groups ache to subjugate women and murder infidels and gays, etc.
Why would Obama do this?
You mean their made up fake Christian values. If an actual Christian saw what these creeps consider Christian values, they’d be very upset. Pretty sure infidelity, bribery, cheating, fraud, name calling, mockery, gambling, false worship, casting out of strangers and all the rest is exactly contradictory to the book they claim to hold in reverence.
All Christian values are made up, bruh. But I get your point.
No, there are.
The “teachings of Jesus” seem just fine: stuff like love thy neighbour no matter what (aka don’t hate minorities), let the one without sins throw rocks first (aka don’t judge), throwing a tantrum at money changers (aka communist).
If only Christians looked up to the one and only character they literally believe is God in human form and try following his actions.
But alas, those Christians are “Christians”, and most know more abot the teachings of Thomas Aquinas than Jesus Christ.
Alas, there are no true scotsmen
That’s really only true for undefined terms. If I’m scientifically determined to be diabetic, but I say I’m not because I define “diabetes” differently than the medical community at-large, my pancreas still can’t produce insulin. Christians, by every accepted definition, follow the teachings of “Jesus Christ,” hence the name. If any can demonstrably be shown to go directly against those teachings, I’d say the argument that they’re not Christian is pretty solid. It’s only when the claims are defined in non-universally accepted terms that the fallacy exists. Like, “No true Scotsman brushes their bottom teeth before brushing their top teeth,” is obviously not a true statement, but “All true Scotsman have a non-zero amount of ‘Scottish blood,’” is acceptably true as long as “amount of Scottish blood” is actually a determinable value.
I would have gone with RINO, but I get ya. When is a thing not a thing it claims to be though? What’s that thingy called, because it’s this.
These xtianists don’t really seem to give a fuck about the Sermon on the Mount very much.
As opposed to the traditional catholic values of murdering brown people, burning apostates, progroming Jews, policing every aspect of sexuality, and most importantly enforcing a rigid belief in social hierarchy and the divine rights of nobility?
I have rarely seen a nation further from “christian values” than the United States at this moment.
Y’all Qaeda.
Your god deserves to be skull fucked to death. Along with your neo nazi Christian subsect.
What did Jesus have to say about immigrants?
What did Jesus have to say about taxes?
What did Jesus have to say about retaliation?
What did Jesus have to say about money and what should be done with it if you have it?
What did Jesus say you should do with everything you own?
Jesus was a Communist. Own nothing. Share everything.
They are modern-day pharisees.
Yeah, my question for this was “WHAT Christian values”, because if they were going to push the fundamental teachings of Jesus I’d actually be ok with that. What they really mean though, is to hang crosses and Bibles in every school and then watch the government speed run breaking every one of the 10 commandments, never mind the teachings of JC.
our morality is God’s morality
That’s because you invented your idea of God to match your own prejudices.
Do I believe what God believes?
Humans have beliefs and opinions. If you think that which creates and sustains the universe has beliefs and opinions, it strongly suggests you’re overly likening it to yourself. Once again, you’re projecting your own prejudices.
Just another case of assholes inventing God in their own image and claiming it went the other way round.
If these guys were going to impose, say, the Quaker interpretation of “the” Bible on America, I might not mind quite so much.
But no, these jerkoffs always take up the most ridiculously hateful and tyrannical version of xtianity that conservatives can find. It’s the most hateful version they can find to validate all their preconceived notions of morality.
Kinda weird how that works - people with a decent set of morality join up with things like Quakers, or the UUs, or something like that.
People with extreme conservative views join up with the militaristic groups that want to back Israel in order to bring about their end of the world fantasies.
It’s almost like they treat “the” bible like a Rorschach blot, and that’s if they’ve even read the thing.
Theocracies must die.
“Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.” - Denis Diderot
Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven.
Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted.
Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the Earth.
Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be satisfied.
Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy.
Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God.
Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called the Sons of God.
Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven.
Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me.
Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you…
Oh, not these values.
Right wing American politics has made a mockery out of Christianity.
Unironically how these people read that list:
Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven.
Read: the poor in spirit die first.
Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted.
Read: We will kill those who mourn
Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the Earth.
Read: Once the greenhouse gasses are no longer tolerable. We going to Mars, suckas
Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be satisfied.
Read: killing those who oppose me is what is righteous.
Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy.
Read: we don’t even bully the Mexican guy on our squad, he’s pretty cool guy
Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God.
Read: white
Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called the Sons of God.
Read: kill those who oppose you until there is no more opposition and you will become Jesus.
Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven.
Read: God needs me to kill ANTIFA
Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me.
Read: you have my permission to kill the infidels.
Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you…
Read: don’t question your mission. You and all your pedo friends can fuck teenage girls or something, after you die for this cause.
…yep. those are them alright.
Right wing American politics has made a mockery out of Christianity.
So, they’re the pharisees?
How are they going to impose Christian values if they don’t know what those are?
Clearly, based on their voting history, those values are to horde wealth and rape children.
And the head of their entire structure has never been religious and, in fact, matches their description of the anti-Christ.
They even carry the mark of the beast upon their heads.
When is someone going to get fed up enough and [ Removed by Reddit ] ?
I think you’re confused about which website we’re on. We’re on Lemmy here. This is a higher class of website. So, the question you should be asking:
When is someone going to get fed up enough and [ Removed by Lemmy ] ?
I expect it’ll be when one of the writing class gets chronic pain or a death sentence diagnosis that could’ve been prevented if healthcare didn’t suck.
Not unlike Luigi is accused, except he’s innocent.
And frankly, yes, we are going to impose it upon you
No, you fucking ARE NOT.
this is how we should run the United States of America by legislating the morality that we can find in the Bible.
You can go ahead and go fuck yourself pal, because this is a secular nation. Besides, the “morality” in the Bible is a horrible model for morality, sorry.
Fools speak without realizing that the rest of society knows when and where they all amass weekly.
