Republicans expected to vote down resolution introduced by Democrats, who condemned Trump for launching strikes without Congressional approval
Senate Republicans are on Wednesday expected to vote down a Democratic-backed war powers resolution that would prevent Donald Trump from continuing the conflict against Iran, with John Thune, the majority leader, arguing Trump is “acting in the best interest of the nation”.
Democrats have condemned Trump for ordering an air campaign against Iran without first seeking permission from Congress, while offering shifting explanations of its objectives. The war powers resolution introduced by Democratic senators Tim Kaine, Adam Schiff and Chuck Schumer, the minority leader, would force an end to US participation in the current hostilities and require the president to go to Congress before re-entering the war.
“We shouldn’t be at war without a debate and vote. That was what the framers intended,” Kaine told reporters Tuesday. “We protect our troops when we do it the right way. We put them at risk when we do it the wrong way.”
You know I’m starting to get the same internal feeling when I see Chuck Schumer’s face that I do when I see Trump’s. Because he just said some feckless towing the billionaire’s propaganda bullshit.
Whose?
The Khanna Massi bill or that false flag bill the Blue MAGA coalition introduced.
Could you expand on the differences?
Yeah, so a group of 6 Democrats, core components of the Blue MAGA coalition, introduced a competing War Powers resolution, in an effort to muddy the water around the original War Powers resolution introduced by Khanna-Massie.
The Khanna-Massie War Powers Resolution was introduced two weeks before Trumps assault on Iran. This bill would have stopped Trump in their tracks with regards to Iran. Democratic leadership prevented a vote on this bill in time to stop what Trump has now done. The political interpretation of this was that because the US going to war with Iran was what Israel wanted, Democratic leadership supported what Trump was doing.
Now, 6 Democrats have introduced a separate war powers resolution, which is practically toothless, and which effectively confuses the two bills. The newer bill is a joke.
At the end of the day, its clear that the Blue-MAGA coalition and Democratic leadership support Trumps war in Iran. They want to be able to “appear” to be resisting Trump while not having to commit to anything that would actually limit Trumps ability to make war.
Only the progressive & anti-interventionist Republican caucus actually oppose war in Iran.
[Edit: to be clear, I know this is a totally different Senate bill]
The “toothless bill to appear to resist without actually going so” part I got – I’m familiar with those sorts of machinations firsthand from participating in local politics.
My question is, what specifically is different about the second bill, policy-wise, that makes it toothless?
I’m also trying to find some details on this, but at least these few things:
One, the Khanna-Massie bill was introduced weeks ago. That matters. Its a big difference. It could have stopped all of this from happening.
I know that the Blue-MAGA bill gives Trump a month? So its giving him carte-blanche and kicking the can. You could interpret it as a form of “continuing resolution” for war for one month?
The Khanna-Massie bill stops Trumps ability to wage this war now.
Its early, I’ve not been able to get into the details. Basically, we had a tool in the pipeline to stop this, it was intentionally stalled by Democrats. Now they’ve introduced a new thing, that doesn’t do the thing being introduced to muddy the water around what the thing is.
[@[email protected] sam and emma are discussing the difference here, now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRaSiYeZGtY]
