No I mean the messenger in “shooting the messenger” is a person with no authority. That’s why shooting them is pointless.
Voters have authority.
You’ve got quite the complete dystopian take on elections, which is all cynical hyperbole and somehow wishful thinking, and must have taken awhile to refine so well done. But, you have the authority to throw your vote away to ensure the realization of that take so - okay.
I’m gonna go over here though where there’s a way to make things better. Because that is possible.
I’m sure when leftists are blamed again for not voting for someone funding a genocide, you’ll be all over the angry comments being like “no, you see, they told us this would happen explicitly, so it’s useless to be angry at them!” and definitely won’t join in on shooting said messengers. Leftists are simultaneously numerous enough to cost the democrats the election while also being not numerous enough for the democrats to want to move left to capture that block. The enemy is weak and also strong.
Do voters actually have authority? How many incredibly popular policies are ignored and how many incredibly unpopular policies are pushed through regardless? Princeton University said public opinion has “near-zero” impact on U.S. law. Should you just make a meme that tells voters to enact their authority on all those in the Epstein files if you believe their authority exists? Seems like voters have a singular ability to legitimize the authority of those who rule over us. You don’t even know if I live in a swing state or not to ascertain if my vote actually matters. In your mind, should the only political people be those in purple states? Should people in solid red or blue states not coordinate about more helpful solutions other than voting for who kills endless people here and abroad? When democrats regain power and continue deadly republican policy, will you be too busy celebrating at brunch to care?
Leftists are simultaneously numerous enough to cost the democrats the election while also being not numerous enough for the democrats to want to move left to capture that block. The enemy is weak and also strong.
No they’re just morons who demand to vote against their interests.
Do voters actually have authority?
Yes! The votes determine who takes office, see? That’s how that works.
Princeton University said public opinion has “near-zero” impact on U.S. law.
Well i’m suspect of any sociological determination but the simple answer is: opinion is not a vote. We don’t vote on the laws, we vote on the people who vote on the laws. So having an opinion doesn’t do anything to the law. It’s like saying public opinion has “near-zero” effect on the migration of the South African swallow.
Seems like voters have a singular ability to legitimize the authority of those who rule over us.
Wow, you really - um. Yes? Voters do authorize people to hold office (and, by extension, deny others the authority to hold office) but the “ruling over us” part is just a weird way to say it. You see, governments are how societies agree to . . . Okay wait, so when people agree to live in society, they . . Okay let’s talk about the Constitution. You see they left this England place because it was bogus, and they were like, hey - if we don’t get some cool rules, pronto, then we’ll just be bogus too!
When democrats regain power and continue deadly republican policy, will you be too busy celebrating at brunch to care?
When trump is gone I am definitely going to go to brunch. But otherwise (and still) no.
No they’re just morons who demand to vote against their interests.
Do you even know what leftist interests are? Maybe they’re just against your interests which are more closely aligned with fascists than we feel comfortable attaching ourselves to.
Yes! The votes determine who takes office, see? That’s how that works.
The electors do that technically, not voters.
We don’t vote on the laws, we vote on the people who vote on the laws. So having an opinion doesn’t do anything to the law. It’s like saying public opinion has “near-zero” effect on the migration of the South African swallow.
Cool, so voters get to choose the face of our abusers but have no control on their abuse since that’s just an ignorable opinion. Great job. No notes.
Wow, you really - um. Yes? Voters do authorize people to hold office (and, by extension, deny others the authority to hold office) but the “ruling over us” part is just a weird way to say it. You see, governments are how societies agree to . . . Okay wait, so when people agree to live in society, they . . Okay let’s talk about the Constitution. You see they left this England place because it was bogus, and they were like, hey - if we don’t get some cool rules, pronto, then we’ll just be bogus too!
Vibes-based political opinion presented as humor.
When trump is gone I am definitely going to go to brunch. But otherwise (and still) no.
Unsurprising. I’ll still be fighting for something better because I’m not a white supremacist.
well if it’s not environmental health, civil rights, education, and economic equity then they can GTFO. If it is, why are they voting against it?
your interests which are more closely aligned with fascists
Sure, comrade. Whatever you gotta tell yourself.
The electors do that technically, not voters.
Do they? Who authorizes the electors? (Technically it’s the party, isn’t it. Which proves how much good faith you have in this discussion)
Cool, so voters get to choose the face of our abusers
I don’t know what happened to you but that’s a really weird way to put it.
Vibes-based political opinion presented as humor.
I don’t see the vibe, but i’ll allow it.
I’ll still be fighting for something better because I’m not a white supremacist.
No, you’re a reactionary idealist relegated to the role of watching everything turning to shit and wondering why. How will you be “still” “fighting for something better”? Shitting on practical options and accusing random people of being white supremacists? Cool. Looks like it’s working great. Your fighting is top notch. Maybe you can yell at a gas station attendant, y’know, to strike a blow against imperial colonialism.
Democratic policy is relegated to your hopes and dreams, entirely separated from the reality of the situation. You think the Dems are better than leftists at environmental health, ignoring all the bombs they blow up and federal land they claimed they wouldn’t drill on that was drilled on. You should probably look at the civil rights voting records. More democrats in number and ratio were against civil rights legislation than even fuckin republicans. It’s the leftists that spearheaded that change in the US to the great annoyance of liberals. Education. Please compare education quality increases in Cuba and China compared with its decline in the US. Economic quality. Lmao. Unless you only care about landlords and weapons manufacturers, why even make this comparison? And if your goal was to compare democrats with republicans, know that I’m not a republican and I’m telling you that you’re more aligned with republicans than leftists (maybe not in the language you use, but in the actions you allow and defend)
Electors are appointed, not elected.
Want to know what “happened to me”? Realizing the comfort I have in the west is at the death and destruction of the global south. My life isn’t worth more than theirs and if you think yours is and you deserve the ill-gotten comfort you’ve become so accustomed to, you are defending white supremacist and imperialist systems. So much for your civil rights and economic equity.
You’re a reactionary that wants to push the horrors of the US back into the shadows so you can enjoy your segregated water fountain again. You don’t want democrats to get better because you are a white supremacist and use Republicans as an excuse to justify your own fucked up desires for your supremacy in this world.
federal land they claimed they wouldn’t drill on that was drilled on.
What land was that?
You should probably look at the civil rights voting records. More democrats in number and ratio were against civil rights legislation than even fuckin republicans.
The fact that you confidently lay that out and obviously don’t know why that is speaks volumes about your political acuity.
Please compare education quality increases in Cuba and China compared with its decline in the US. Economic quality.
Oh here we go. Yes do tell how Cuba and China are beacons for us all.
know that I’m not a republican
Yeah, I didn’t . . . think that at all.
Electors are appointed, not elected.
Correct! Five points.
you are defending white supremacist and imperialist systems.
The fuck i am. I’m saying there’s a practical path to a better world and it’s not that complicated. Individuals stand in the way, but that’s why supporting a larger movement is a good thing.
You don’t want democrats to get better because you are a white supremacist and use Republicans as an excuse to justify your own fucked up desires for your supremacy in this world.
You’re completely delusional and destined to support the very systems you claim to hate so much. Like you did in 2024.
The fact that you confidently lay that out and obviously don’t know why that is speaks volumes about your political acuity.
Go on then. Explain why the democrats had to support the civil rights legislation less than republicans. Defend the racist southern democrats’ position as you defend the modern democrats’ imperialist position.
Yes do tell how Cuba and China are beacons for us all.
In Cuba Literacy, maternal survival, and life expectancy are all better than the USA even after getting collectively punished by the USA for over 6 decades. They also have a much lower wealth disparity than the US. They also also developed multiple covid vaccines with a very robust biotech sector. 90% homeownership rate. Do you not know this because of western chauvinism, racism, propaganda, or a combination of them all? I’d do the same list for China, but they’ve surpassed the US so much in real, human ways that it’d be a waste of time to lay it all out for someone who won’t read it anyway. Go investigate or continue being a racist western chauvinist.
Yeah, I didn’t . . . think that at all.
So you bring up a list of topics leftist absolutely wipe the floor of Democrats with. Great strategy. Rivals the logic of convincing people to vote in an election by telling them their opponent cheats.
Correct! Five points.
Yes, ignore the further proof that voters lack authority to impact change necessary in the world. You barely have enough impact to change who gets bribed by corporations.
The fuck i am. I’m saying there’s a practical path to a better world and it’s not that complicated. Individuals stand in the way, but that’s why supporting a larger movement is a good thing.
You’re completely delusional and destined to support the very systems you claim to hate so much. Like you did in 2024.
Destined to support capitalism? I didn’t support it in 2024 and I don’t support them now. You benefit from it obviously, the entire world and every person on it be damned. I think you’re just using words recreationally since you don’t understand the systems that cause you to think the way you think.
In Cuba Literacy, maternal survival, and life expectancy are all better than the USA even after getting collectively punished by the USA for over 6 decades.
Wow that’s something for less than half the population of Florida. Good for them. That communist thing really working out then. Glad to hear it.
They also have a much lower wealth disparity than the US.
I’ll bet! Just barely being edged out in the GDP rankings by Uruguay and slightly ahead of El Salvador. “Wealth in Cuba is concentrated among a small elite, with estimates suggesting that about 1% of the population holds significant wealth, including luxury items and modern amenities. The majority of Cubans face economic challenges, with many living below the poverty line despite the government’s claims of low poverty rates.”
But no, you’re probably right on account of your reasonable approach.
So you bring up a list of topics leftist absolutely wipe the floor of Democrats with.
Oh yeah, totes bro. Leftists have passed so many bills, you guys. Billions of dollars in funding for leftist goals, millions of proletariats supported, as spearheaded by the leftists in office in leftist imaginations. Puts Democrats to shame as far as made up accomplishments go. Hey that’s what a state news agency is for, baby!
Yes, ignore the further proof that voters lack authority to impact change necessary in the world.
As a - whatever flava of leftist you supposedly support, you should know who has authority but I guess they don’t let y’all vote that often then anyway huh.
So you’re okay with signing your name on bombs so long as it’s the practical decision to keep you comfy.
How the fuck did you get there? Jeez you’re like open mic night at the sad lefty club.
Destined to support capitalism? I didn’t support it in 2024 and I don’t support them now.
Ah, living off the land eh? Got your little keyboard made out of mushrooms and an internet connection through the call of the wild do ya. That’s super. Hey while you’re lying to yourself and everyone else why not throw in that you made the world a better place by allowing trump to win. I mean, why not, right?
No I mean the messenger in “shooting the messenger” is a person with no authority. That’s why shooting them is pointless.
Voters have authority.
You’ve got quite the complete dystopian take on elections, which is all cynical hyperbole and somehow wishful thinking, and must have taken awhile to refine so well done. But, you have the authority to throw your vote away to ensure the realization of that take so - okay.
I’m gonna go over here though where there’s a way to make things better. Because that is possible.
I’m sure when leftists are blamed again for not voting for someone funding a genocide, you’ll be all over the angry comments being like “no, you see, they told us this would happen explicitly, so it’s useless to be angry at them!” and definitely won’t join in on shooting said messengers. Leftists are simultaneously numerous enough to cost the democrats the election while also being not numerous enough for the democrats to want to move left to capture that block. The enemy is weak and also strong.
Do voters actually have authority? How many incredibly popular policies are ignored and how many incredibly unpopular policies are pushed through regardless? Princeton University said public opinion has “near-zero” impact on U.S. law. Should you just make a meme that tells voters to enact their authority on all those in the Epstein files if you believe their authority exists? Seems like voters have a singular ability to legitimize the authority of those who rule over us. You don’t even know if I live in a swing state or not to ascertain if my vote actually matters. In your mind, should the only political people be those in purple states? Should people in solid red or blue states not coordinate about more helpful solutions other than voting for who kills endless people here and abroad? When democrats regain power and continue deadly republican policy, will you be too busy celebrating at brunch to care?
No they’re just morons who demand to vote against their interests.
Yes! The votes determine who takes office, see? That’s how that works.
Well i’m suspect of any sociological determination but the simple answer is: opinion is not a vote. We don’t vote on the laws, we vote on the people who vote on the laws. So having an opinion doesn’t do anything to the law. It’s like saying public opinion has “near-zero” effect on the migration of the South African swallow.
Wow, you really - um. Yes? Voters do authorize people to hold office (and, by extension, deny others the authority to hold office) but the “ruling over us” part is just a weird way to say it. You see, governments are how societies agree to . . . Okay wait, so when people agree to live in society, they . . Okay let’s talk about the Constitution. You see they left this England place because it was bogus, and they were like, hey - if we don’t get some cool rules, pronto, then we’ll just be bogus too!
When trump is gone I am definitely going to go to brunch. But otherwise (and still) no.
Do you even know what leftist interests are? Maybe they’re just against your interests which are more closely aligned with fascists than we feel comfortable attaching ourselves to.
The electors do that technically, not voters.
Cool, so voters get to choose the face of our abusers but have no control on their abuse since that’s just an ignorable opinion. Great job. No notes.
Vibes-based political opinion presented as humor.
Unsurprising. I’ll still be fighting for something better because I’m not a white supremacist.
well if it’s not environmental health, civil rights, education, and economic equity then they can GTFO. If it is, why are they voting against it?
Sure, comrade. Whatever you gotta tell yourself.
Do they? Who authorizes the electors? (Technically it’s the party, isn’t it. Which proves how much good faith you have in this discussion)
I don’t know what happened to you but that’s a really weird way to put it.
I don’t see the vibe, but i’ll allow it.
No, you’re a reactionary idealist relegated to the role of watching everything turning to shit and wondering why. How will you be “still” “fighting for something better”? Shitting on practical options and accusing random people of being white supremacists? Cool. Looks like it’s working great. Your fighting is top notch. Maybe you can yell at a gas station attendant, y’know, to strike a blow against imperial colonialism.
Democratic policy is relegated to your hopes and dreams, entirely separated from the reality of the situation. You think the Dems are better than leftists at environmental health, ignoring all the bombs they blow up and federal land they claimed they wouldn’t drill on that was drilled on. You should probably look at the civil rights voting records. More democrats in number and ratio were against civil rights legislation than even fuckin republicans. It’s the leftists that spearheaded that change in the US to the great annoyance of liberals. Education. Please compare education quality increases in Cuba and China compared with its decline in the US. Economic quality. Lmao. Unless you only care about landlords and weapons manufacturers, why even make this comparison? And if your goal was to compare democrats with republicans, know that I’m not a republican and I’m telling you that you’re more aligned with republicans than leftists (maybe not in the language you use, but in the actions you allow and defend)
Electors are appointed, not elected.
Want to know what “happened to me”? Realizing the comfort I have in the west is at the death and destruction of the global south. My life isn’t worth more than theirs and if you think yours is and you deserve the ill-gotten comfort you’ve become so accustomed to, you are defending white supremacist and imperialist systems. So much for your civil rights and economic equity.
You’re a reactionary that wants to push the horrors of the US back into the shadows so you can enjoy your segregated water fountain again. You don’t want democrats to get better because you are a white supremacist and use Republicans as an excuse to justify your own fucked up desires for your supremacy in this world.
What land was that?
The fact that you confidently lay that out and obviously don’t know why that is speaks volumes about your political acuity.
Oh here we go. Yes do tell how Cuba and China are beacons for us all.
Yeah, I didn’t . . . think that at all.
Correct! Five points.
The fuck i am. I’m saying there’s a practical path to a better world and it’s not that complicated. Individuals stand in the way, but that’s why supporting a larger movement is a good thing.
You’re completely delusional and destined to support the very systems you claim to hate so much. Like you did in 2024.
You were probably too busy at brunch to notice
Go on then. Explain why the democrats had to support the civil rights legislation less than republicans. Defend the racist southern democrats’ position as you defend the modern democrats’ imperialist position.
In Cuba Literacy, maternal survival, and life expectancy are all better than the USA even after getting collectively punished by the USA for over 6 decades. They also have a much lower wealth disparity than the US. They also also developed multiple covid vaccines with a very robust biotech sector. 90% homeownership rate. Do you not know this because of western chauvinism, racism, propaganda, or a combination of them all? I’d do the same list for China, but they’ve surpassed the US so much in real, human ways that it’d be a waste of time to lay it all out for someone who won’t read it anyway. Go investigate or continue being a racist western chauvinist.
So you bring up a list of topics leftist absolutely wipe the floor of Democrats with. Great strategy. Rivals the logic of convincing people to vote in an election by telling them their opponent cheats.
Yes, ignore the further proof that voters lack authority to impact change necessary in the world. You barely have enough impact to change who gets bribed by corporations.
So you’re okay with signing your name on bombs so long as it’s the practical decision to keep you comfy. How brave. Did you email your Dem representatives to thank them for agreeing with trump’s bombing of girls in Iran because it’s “practical” to keep gas prices low?
Destined to support capitalism? I didn’t support it in 2024 and I don’t support them now. You benefit from it obviously, the entire world and every person on it be damned. I think you’re just using words recreationally since you don’t understand the systems that cause you to think the way you think.
Wow that’s something for less than half the population of Florida. Good for them. That communist thing really working out then. Glad to hear it.
I’ll bet! Just barely being edged out in the GDP rankings by Uruguay and slightly ahead of El Salvador. “Wealth in Cuba is concentrated among a small elite, with estimates suggesting that about 1% of the population holds significant wealth, including luxury items and modern amenities. The majority of Cubans face economic challenges, with many living below the poverty line despite the government’s claims of low poverty rates.”
But no, you’re probably right on account of your reasonable approach.
Oh yeah, totes bro. Leftists have passed so many bills, you guys. Billions of dollars in funding for leftist goals, millions of proletariats supported, as spearheaded by the leftists in office in leftist imaginations. Puts Democrats to shame as far as made up accomplishments go. Hey that’s what a state news agency is for, baby!
As a - whatever flava of leftist you supposedly support, you should know who has authority but I guess they don’t let y’all vote that often then anyway huh.
How the fuck did you get there? Jeez you’re like open mic night at the sad lefty club.
Ah, living off the land eh? Got your little keyboard made out of mushrooms and an internet connection through the call of the wild do ya. That’s super. Hey while you’re lying to yourself and everyone else why not throw in that you made the world a better place by allowing trump to win. I mean, why not, right?