• WoodScientist@lemmy.world
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    Of course not. We have only two choices of party:

    1. The Fascist party.

    2. The party that tells you to vote for them lest the Fascists win, but when elected, does nothing to fight the Fascists, reverse their worst atrocities, or prevent them from coming back to power.

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      when elected, does nothing to fight the Fascists, reverse their worst atrocities, or prevent them from coming back to power

      Yep. If Democrats ever gain power again, watch them keep ICE pretty much the same way it is now, keep most of Trump’s tariffs, not restore SNAP or USAID funding to previous levels, etc, etc, etc.

      We just have to be grateful that the lesser evil party didn’t add too many new atrocities before they calmly and politely cede power to the fascists again.

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        Exactly. Could one of the blue MAGA folks let me know when Newsom publicly announces he supports completely dismantling DHS and rolling back the post-9/11 surveillance state? You cannot seriously pretend to want to fight fascism if dismantling the tools of the fascists isn’t the first thing you intend to do when in power.

        It has some serious Lord of the Rings vibes. The surveillance state and the unconstitutional powers created after 9/11 are this immensely powerful tool created for evil ends. But after the evil is defeated, the nominally good guys choose to not to dismantle the evil tools, but to keep them, telling themselves that they will be used for good. Except they cannot be used for good, as they are fundamentally evil. Meanwhile I’m over here shouting, “cast it into the fire!” But they decide to keep it every time.

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        Except that attitude pretends that the election in front of you is the only election that will ever happen ever again. It’s a short-sighted view that leads us to exactly where we are now. We’ve had 30 years of Democrats telling everyone “don’t boycott this election. This is the most important one in history. If you don’t vote for us, democracy is dead forever. I know we’re not really going to do anything to change things, but what choice do you have?”

        In retrospect, we would have been a lot better off today if in 2016 the entire left wing of the Democratic party just boycotted the election entirely. The fact that Hillary came close to winning is the only reason the neoliberal wing was able to retain any credibility.

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          I boycotted 2016 and look where we are now. I was young and stupid and should have toed the line. I fucking hate Hillary and everything she represents, but I could not comprehend at the time what Trump represented

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            I was verbally harassed by a dozen picture perfect Karen’s in a highschool gym for standing on the Bernie side during the 2016 caucus. They did not make a guy want to side with them.

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              Nope. Being told “it’s her turn” was it for me. You had a pro Wall Street, pro War candidate versus Bernie. I think a lot of young people either didn’t vote or switched sides that year.

              Telling your future voting pool to shut up and take more austerity and less opportunity so Wall Street can get rich ain’t it DNC

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    Holy shit, people keep lecturing about how we shouldn’t blame voters, but an awful lot of them still support him on various issues, FFS.

    I mean…34% approve of his tariffs? What in the actual fuck.

    And he still polls higher than Biden on mental ability? Jesus, I would have taken Biden in a coma over this shit.

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      34% of the voter base are his voters. If he starts polling in the 20% range he’s losing supporters. Until then these are the centrists being fickle. 34% of the voter base doesn’t see any problem with him raping children.

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      I have a bet going with my father in law over the US midterms. He believes that the American midterms will swing things towards the Democrats and their country will get back on track. I took the cynical bet and said there was no way midterms would swing government control, because a) a large portion of the population is not inspired to go out and support the Democrats even if they don’t love the current administration and b) I fully expect whatever amount of fraud is necessary to ensure a Republican win despite poor polling.

      I always hope I’m wrong and just taking being a pessimist, but articles like this make me realize that I might well be drowning my sorrows in a very nice bottle of wine in November.

  • 𝕲𝖑𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍🔻𝕯𝖃 (he/him)@lemmy.world
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    Democrats had 4 years to prosecute Trump after Treason Day. No shit we “don’t trust dems more”. Sure, some dems individually are worth a damn, but 90% of them belong in prison (along with 100% of republicans) for enabling this shitshow.

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    This is why we need a new party in America that’s actually left of center.

    National ranked choice voting, get rid of electoral college, outlaw gerrymandering, restructure the Supreme Court, overturn citizens united, restore the fairness doctrine, and we will finally have some viable options. It will probably take an Article V constitutional convention to get there.

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        The reason I suggest Article V is that it’s the only option within our system of government remaining, since the 3 federal branches are so compromised by corruption.

        Theoretically it could work because the delegates would be our state representatives. These are people we know in real life, whose homes we know the location of…etc. We the people could apply certain pressures to ensure they respect our demands and don’t go off the rails.

        The establishment politicians will claim as you do here - that there are too many unknowns and it’s too dangerous to attempt. In actuality, they simply know they would lose their power and grift as a result, so of course they will fight this tooth and nail. The truth is that the real chaotic unknown happens with a violent coups, which is the final remaining option. Personally, I’d prefer the reform method outlined in our constitution to that any day.

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      That’s a nice wishlist, but I don’t see a new party doing anything.

      They’d have to do that under the Democratic Party. That’s the only way it’s happening.

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        The whole point of throwing a constitutional convention would be to go around the useless fucking Congress that that’s been captured for 20 years

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            Well my friend your local elections matter. They are the foundation of this country. If I can’t trust you to elect a trustworthy person to represent your town or state…. Then how can I trust you to form a political party at the national level? So to answer your question, go elect someone accountable for the state level, then we can get the states together for that convention. You probably have a bunch of elected leadership ships in your local government that aren’t politically affiliated because it’s not important locally. But for some reason, it is nationally and the reason is money.

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    You can always count on the uniparty to vote in Israel’s best interest while screwing American citizens