I don’t disagree. I like that spirit. I’m just telling you the reality that unless ICE (or “election integrity enforcement” or whatever they end up calling it) is not present AT ALL than there will be significantly less voter turnout.
They will also use any organized resistance as a reason to “recount” the votes in that area.
I’m not saying this to be a Doomer. I’m saying this so people prepare. There is no scenario in which the upcoming election is free and fair. We need to be preparing state and local level resistance. A unified and state armed multi state coalition. If the blue state politicians don’t move on this. Well, we need to start considering that our state governments are not taking the threat seriously and accept what needs to be done to form a real resistance. ICE will not leave because we brought signs. Alex Pretti had the right idea. But we need the organization of an actual state government to do that.
That’s what they want. The fascists want us to give them a reason to escalate, because escalation will ensure that people stay away from the polls. We need to be organized, we need to be unified and we need to form a real resistance, but we also need to be smart, and that means NOT giving the fascists exactly what they’re hoping for.
ICE will not leave because we brought signs.
Signs don’t threaten them, that’s true, and that’s exactly the point. They want us to threaten them, because then they can escalate. We need to be smart. That doesn’t mean we need to be ineffectual or passive, it means we need to be very careful about how we proceed.
You are falling for political talking points by weak politicians that do not want to stand up for the people they represent that are being killed and kidnapped. I need you to understand something important. Fascist DO NOT need an EXCUSE to escalate. How do you think we got to SS troops going door to door asking for papers? Was it because of all the escalating excuses we gave them?
Please, we need people like you to not fall for Democrat politicians that are just trying to save themselves.
You also offered no alternative. Your advice to be “careful” is not advice. If you actually had a proposal I’d be interested in discussing that. But you are essentially arguing for doing nothing as the fascist continue to escalate in the face of nothing being done.
No. That’s exactly what they want. They want us to give them a reason to escalate. If they escalate anyway, then they expose themselves as the violent fascists that they are. That’s important. Public perception does matter.
They’ve already exposed themselves. What are you waiting for? What is your line? When they come for you? Offer an alternative that isn’t just “wait until things are REALLY REALLY BAD and then that will be our opportunity to point at that; and pointing at that fascist state will somehow defeat it.”
Then we show up and put ourselves between the polls and ICE.
I don’t disagree. I like that spirit. I’m just telling you the reality that unless ICE (or “election integrity enforcement” or whatever they end up calling it) is not present AT ALL than there will be significantly less voter turnout.
They will also use any organized resistance as a reason to “recount” the votes in that area.
I’m not saying this to be a Doomer. I’m saying this so people prepare. There is no scenario in which the upcoming election is free and fair. We need to be preparing state and local level resistance. A unified and state armed multi state coalition. If the blue state politicians don’t move on this. Well, we need to start considering that our state governments are not taking the threat seriously and accept what needs to be done to form a real resistance. ICE will not leave because we brought signs. Alex Pretti had the right idea. But we need the organization of an actual state government to do that.
That’s what they want. The fascists want us to give them a reason to escalate, because escalation will ensure that people stay away from the polls. We need to be organized, we need to be unified and we need to form a real resistance, but we also need to be smart, and that means NOT giving the fascists exactly what they’re hoping for.
Signs don’t threaten them, that’s true, and that’s exactly the point. They want us to threaten them, because then they can escalate. We need to be smart. That doesn’t mean we need to be ineffectual or passive, it means we need to be very careful about how we proceed.
You are falling for political talking points by weak politicians that do not want to stand up for the people they represent that are being killed and kidnapped. I need you to understand something important. Fascist DO NOT need an EXCUSE to escalate. How do you think we got to SS troops going door to door asking for papers? Was it because of all the escalating excuses we gave them?
Please, we need people like you to not fall for Democrat politicians that are just trying to save themselves.
You also offered no alternative. Your advice to be “careful” is not advice. If you actually had a proposal I’d be interested in discussing that. But you are essentially arguing for doing nothing as the fascist continue to escalate in the face of nothing being done.
Have you not been paying any attention?
THEY FUCKING ESCALATE WITHOUT AN EXCUSE ALL THE TIME.
Where is this bullshit “oh guys let’s not agitate them it might make it worse”
THERE’S NOT MUCH WORSE THAN LOSING FREE ELECTIONS
ESCALATE. FIGHT. FUCK THEM.
No. That’s exactly what they want. They want us to give them a reason to escalate. If they escalate anyway, then they expose themselves as the violent fascists that they are. That’s important. Public perception does matter.
They’ve already exposed themselves. What are you waiting for? What is your line? When they come for you? Offer an alternative that isn’t just “wait until things are REALLY REALLY BAD and then that will be our opportunity to point at that; and pointing at that fascist state will somehow defeat it.”