Looks like the Ghostrunner developers also have an issue with paid mods running off their IP.

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    17 hours ago

    In a considerably more ideal world than the one we live in, all games, not just mods, would be free and everyone could just donate to developers of games they found worth the money.

    It’ll probably take a long time for that world to materialize, since it’d require all corporations and billionaires to disappear forever first.

    In the meantime, either make free mods with an option to donate, or make your own games. Personally I think it’s a waste of time and effort to spend so much of your life on mods for AAA games. I could understand if it was just for fun, but this guy seems to treat this way more seriously.

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    2 days ago

    CDPR really likes to shoot themselves in the leg, meanwhile Dota and DayZ 🤑

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    I don’t get why modders shouldn’t be allowed to ask for money. Do players just want people to work for free? Why should the game developers get to set the rules when mods often contain no content/IP from the game devs?

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    He made a VR mod for the game and they are suing him? Kiss my ass. He is the true cyberpunk.

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      15 hours ago

      Joining in on subscription based monetization is being Cyberpunk? I think that applies more to the anonymous person who released Link’s Awakening DX HD.

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    Fuck all the DMCA trolls, that guy isn’t hurting any of their profits. He made dozens of games work in VR that never had a VR option, which nobody else has done for those games. It’s not unfair for him to make money from his unique work when the demand is there.

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      Don’t rely on making money off of paid mods that require use others IP and then throw a giant tantrum garnering more Streisand attention to yourself that you’re making money off of paid mods using other people’s IP by publicly throwing a tantrum disrespecting the wishes of a reasonable request by the developer that says “Don’t make a paid mod for our game but here’s an alternative so you can still make money but still respect our developers’ desire to keep mods free.”

      Just a thought.

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        2 days ago

        The RealVR mod does not include any files from the copyrighted games, therefore does not use anyone else’s IP. It obviously makes reference to the games’ copyrighted content, in order to inform the public of what games it works with. Basically the same concept as an aftermarket addon to a device that is not licensed by the original equipment manufacturer, similar to something like a non-Apple accessory for an iPhone.

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          Here’s the thing, he and the other modders that are doing this are very much so running a fine line here. They’re modifying the game’s code, sure it’s in memory, but it’s their code they’re modifying to get things to work. It’s not just relying on using existing API calls that are open for them to use. Just because they’re not modifying the files on disk vs modifying in-memory doesn’t mean they’re not using their IP, they certainly are and there’s precedent that this type of action falls under the DMCA.

          Take in point that Riot and Bungie and many other companies have DMCA’ed and sued cheat makers and hey those guys were also just selling mods for their games. They also weren’t selling any files from their copyrighted games either they were just selling a framework to inject their software into their games. So question is are you also saying that Riot and Bungie are also DMCA sue-happy people who are Debbie downers that are preventing coders from making money?

          Your simplistic, it’s just a phone case, isn’t analogous here.

          Don’t get me wrong, IP law is tricky and IANAL but again, when a company politely asks you to respect their ToS and not sell a mod using their IP and you throw a tantrum and manage to piss off your community, well good luck buddy.

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      2 days ago

      I’m not a fan of paid mods personally and would probably never buy them, but I also think these copyright claims are crappy and seem baseless to me. What he sold was his own original code. He should be free to sell it and let people decide if they want to spend money on it. That may break the ToS of these companies, but ToS are not laws.

      • FauxLiving@lemmy.world
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        Agreed.

        I understand the IP issues around marketing but not the entitlement of people who think it’s okay to demand that they be given it for free.

        The developer still has to eat and live. If they choose to work for money that’s literally one of the most universal things that people do on this planet. It’s ridiculous and immature to demand otherwise.