• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    I feel for all those whose insurance premium is about to become unaffordable

    Idk. I’ve been told a bunch of them are Republicans and therefore they deserve to suffer.

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      Hoping this is sarcasm mocking this kind of take.

      Everyone deserves healthcare. This is like the “I’m calling ICE on my neighbors that I know have undocumented family members because one of them voted for Trump”. It’s just treating politics as a team sport for entertainment; and not actually caring about it because you want positive change for the world you live in.

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        This is like the “I’m calling ICE on my neighbors that I know have undocumented family members because one of them voted for Trump”.

        I’m sure liberal has done this IRL. The desire to punish brown people for voting incorrectly is strongly bipartisan.

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      3 days ago

      Pretty sure that’s just a dishonest attempt to DARVO the people who acknowledge that republican voters don’t care about anything until it harms them directly.

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        Not just Republicans. Most voters are fixated on local and personal issues. National politicians typically have a free rein on foreign policy thanks to the significant disconnect between international affairs and voter household issues. To add to the problem, Presidents can’t be recalled. Judges serve for life. Senators hold office on six-year stretches. The only people who really face the wrath of a disgruntled populace on a regular basis are House Reps (and gerrymandering blunts that knife most election cycles).

        If you really get under the hood of the GOP and ask what makes them tick, one thing that sticks out is the degree to which the fossil fuel industry’s presence in a district/state influences the number of Republican voters. Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania are great textbook examples, with rises and falls in the profitability of petroleum products neatly tracking their success at electing conservative leaders.

        One question you might want to ask, as a liberal who claims to love universal programs like health care and education and housing and public transportation, is why your own state leaders suck at it so much. California’s the 7th largest economy in the world. And they’ve got broad control over their Medicaid dollars, same as any other state. Why aren’t they doing Public Options or State Run Hospitals like their peers in Canada and the UK?

        FFS, blood red Kentucky has a more leftwing health care system than anything in bright blue Washington State or New Jersey.

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        2 days ago

        Did they bring it about? I seem to recall “Entitlement Reform” as bipartisan issue.

        FFS, look at the Michael Bloomberg campaign. And he’s practically running the national party at this point.

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          Did they bring it about?

          Did they vote for the clowns running this circus?

          I seem to recall “Entitlement Reform” as bipartisan issue.

          Always laughable to hear republicans call for ‘entitlement reform’, because the reform is always ‘fuck you, you don’t get this anymore’. Or they sell the service to a private company who gets to wring you for every cent, then tell you ‘fuck you, pre-existing condition, go die’.

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          Did they bring it about?

          Yes, clearly. They put these people in power. They happily voted for a guy who had a health care policy that amounted to “concepts of a plan” for like a decade now.

          The people who didn’t vote for Republicans don’t deserve it. The children and dependents of Republicans don’t deserve it. The adult voting Republicans do deserve it. They did it to themselves, I have zero guilt nor sympathy for them specifically.

          I seem to recall “Entitlement Reform” as bipartisan issue.

          I don’t. I can’t think of a single time from last election season where this was agreed upon as a bipartisan issue. Also, health insurance has never been lumped in with this. Your argument that both parties wanted to end ACA subsidies is absolutely asinine and totally divorced from reality. More lazy “both sides” nonsense usually originating from people who want to feel superior to everybody while also not having to do any work.

          FFS, look at the Michael Bloomberg campaign. And he’s practically running the national party at this point.

          What Bloomberg campaign?