• NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world
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      I’d really only call one of them illegitimate (Goursch), unless you want to get in on other things like Clarence Thomas being a corrupt motherfucker who should be impeached and removed.

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        Founding fathers really had faith that bad actors would get impeached. Too many wolves in sheep’s clothing for that to happen though.

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    Depressing but not surprising. Their corruption aside, the argument is that it’s not race based because it’s partisan gerrymandering… which is the official (and fucked up) reason for the maps. Partisan gerrymandering is legal, for some reason.

    That said, race and politics are clearly intertwined so a bunch of black and brown folk are about to be disenfranchised. So long as the GOP remains the party of White Christian Nationalism, any partisan moves will continue to be racial ones inherently.

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      honest query: conservatives hate popular vote / ranked choice / anything that cleans up the absurdities of the electoral college. how the fuck do we pass something like that with half the states fighting everything?

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        So it doesn’t take half the states to pass it. It only takes enough states to make up half of the electoral votes. It could actually be done with as few as 12 states if those with the most electoral votes all agreed (though that requires Texas and Florida to join the compact). But even now, there are only 17 states and DC officially joined in the compact, yet that already makes up almost 39% of electoral votes. They will need some red or purple states to join too, to reach the number of course. There’s not enough electoral votes in all the solid blue states alone. Purple state Pennsylvania, and red states Kansas and South Carolina all have bills in committee to join. Were they all to pass, they’d have 45% of the electoral college in the compact.

        It’s to the benefit of hard red states too though. It will make their needs more of a priority for campaigning presidents instead of only Swing States being pandered to. The Swing states are the only ones that have a vested interest in preserving the status quo. And it’s not like Trump wouldnt be president now if the compact was triggered now (unfortunately) so it’s silly to pretend that it would prevent conservative presidencies.

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          It doesn’t take half the states, just half the states worth of electoral votes - and yeah, getting texas and florida… not likely. it’s an awesome idea, but the hurdles are real.

          It’s to the benefit of hard red states too though.

          they’ve never really voted to their own benefits if they conflict with the gop’s mission. see: everything

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        Oh, I didn’t say I knew how to make that happen.

        Democrats when they’re in power promoting places like Puerto Rico and DC into states definitely wouldn’t hurt, though.

        Also, theoretically Trump getting less and less popular is probably helping its chances.

        And more awareness of the existence of the pact is definitely beneficial.

        Whether it’s likely to happen even if the above all happens, who knows.

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    When do poor people get to stop following the rules? I don’t wanna pay taxes this year.