Feel free to call me out for being an asshole for any other reason, too. 😉
Here me out though, inb4 “Why do you want to insult people without being offensive, you inane, paradoxical asshole?”
Well, here’s the thing. I do want to be able to offend someone (in some cases), or to say something that might be considered offensive to them, even if not directed at them. More importantly, I want other people to have alternatives to insults, because people are going to use insults anyway, and making those insults less broadly offensive as a form of damage control is a far more achievable goal than doing away with insults entirely. But the purpose is to insult/offend a quality of their character, of that particular person (or a group of people who demonstrate a specific quality, attitude or choice etc), rather than using a random insult which uses a different group than the target individual/group as the butt of the joke and ends up, as a kind of crossfire/side effect, either offending that group or others or contributing to potentially harmful societal attitudes toward them.
I mean, do you have a problem saying “Misogynists are buttfaces”? No? But you just insulted a group. See what I mean? It’s ok to insult groups sometimes. But why insult disabled people? They didn’t/don’t inherently do anything wrong or worthy of ridicule (obviously some disabled people do, like any group of people - but that has nothing to do with their disability). And I’m guessing most people are fine with saying “That person is a real… asshole”. Hence the community this is in.
Let’s set aside the debate over “Is the R-word (removed, not gRape) offensive to disabled people, or to others who might be offended on their behalf, and/or does it contribute to negative attitudes & potential treatment of those groups of people”. Let’s just assume for sake of example that it’s an offensive or harmful term, or off limits regardless, because many people do take issue with that word and its colloquial understandings and associations/connotations. What would be a viable alternative? I can think of many…
But seriously, and please don’t lynch me for saying it in this self-aware meta analytical context, nothing hits as hard as “That’s fucking removed” or “What a fucking removed”/“What a bunch of fucking removed”. These are powerful expressions, and they have the ability to persuade others to think negatively about a concept, thing, event, person or group of people, or to convey in evocative terms how you feel that something or someone is absurd, ridiculous or foolish. It may also be elements of the sound/enunciation of the word that are effective, even if you just read it and think of it. It’s similar actually to the word “fuck/fucking”, which I also used there. It means almost nothing extra but it can add emphasis.
And obviously the intention is (usually, or at least often) not to offend or even comment on anything about disabled people, and they aren’t even in mind at all. So it is similar to saying “That’s gay” (in a negative way), which honestly just sounds lame and cringe to me and doesn’t have the same effect as the r word. But the parallel exists where a lot of people aren’t thinking of actual gay people at all when they use the insult, and may be pro-🏳️🌈/LGBT, but it’s still problematic regardless.
Now, I’m not defending using the R word at all, nor do I use it. I actively avoid using it, with the exception of this post. But I see others using it all the time, and I can’t help but understand why they do, since it fills a bit of a linguistic box that other words haven’t been able to fill as well, although I want to be corrected on that.
Other words which are contenders for replacements when used as an insult in a way that is intended to be used very generally and not directed at or referencing marginalized groups or particular groups at all, aside from “removed/removed” or “gay”, include “removed”, the N word, and maybe “motherfucker” (I get a lot of pushback from this one, aside from some feminists who agreed it’s a little problematic - like “your mom” jokes). Also, using other animals as insults, but I know most people aren’t going to agree with me on that one since it’s more of a vegan/animal rights thing. Again don’t lynch me. Yes, I’m trying to find ways that people can be assholes without being more of assholes than they need to. Does that make me an asshole? Also, do you have any suggestions? Thanks for reading, and “fuck you” (not really, you’re alright).


There are insults that I feel like are moralistic, majority seem linked to non-marital sex but the root overall is trying to shame someone for sexual activity that “should” be shameful. From those aimed at women like removed (lol lemmy, I’m saying the female dog here), slut, removed (ugh, the way devs treat everyone like children is ridiculous… it wouldn’t prevent a troll from writing wh0re, just prevent adults from having a conversation), etc, to homophobic insults, and even some more “neutral” like bastard… I don’t feel like people talk about bastard enough, like, you are trying to shame that person for their mother not being married? Like, single mother = bad person? (like son of a removed, bastard is pretty misogynistic)
However, when someone says something really dumb, and you try to come up with an insult to his intelligence, I think inevitably someone will try to link it to people who are mentally impaired. Even the word “dumb” here, it’s used for people with speech impairment, and people believed they couldn’t talk because they were idiots, which meant mentally impaired as well… given enough first-world-boredom, someone will make the fight against “dumb” and “idiot” their cause too.
What about when there is data and evidence to something and the person refuses to see or hear… you gonna call them blind/deaf? You will have a hard time finding an insult that first-world-boredom won’t try to link to shaming people with disabilities… even calling someone crazy, insane, demented, deranged, etc, those are all used to demean people with real mental conditions, it’s ok to make them the butt of the joke?
I’m all pro using insults like asshole, piece of shit, etc, instead of moralistic stuff when you are trying to insult a person’s character… but what if you are trying to insult a person’s cognitive ability? People dead set to be offended will find a way to say you are being prejudicial towards people with cognitive impairment.