Jus cannot believe libs still think they’re just a “defense” organization LMBO
I mean, seems fair? It’s not like we haven’t seen large scale cyber operations carried out in the past, and not a single one has ever been deemed to rise to being an act of war.
Unless you’re killing power to hospitals or something, cyber effects seem to be fair play in the modern world stage.
You think Russias gonna declare war on NATO because they have some IT systems destroyed, or a bunch of records stolen or deleted or whatever? I really completely fail to imagine anything short of the “killing power to a hospital” example that would cause an escalation, and honestly, I’m not even sure that would.
Russia is happy to do it to other countries. Turnabout seems fair play to me. Especially since they’re doing it while actively committing genocide on a neighboring country.
Hello 'worlder, welcome to the side of the fediverse outside of the NATO media bubble.
If you want to know the truth, I will lay down a trail. If you literally respond to this by calling me a Russian troll then you are a joke. If the Russians could actually do informational warfare as well as the West none of us would be having this conversation.
The 2014 coup was orchestrated by the United States and brought a radical Nazi faction called the Banderites into power in Ukraine.
The Banderites spent the next 7 years conducting a genocidal campaign in the Donbass against ethnolinguistic Russians.
Over those 7 years the West sabotaged and undermined three separate peace agreements, known as Minsk one and two and Istanbul. These facts have even been documented in the western press. Look up Angela Merkel conceding that the only point of the Minsk agreements was to stall and rearm the Ukrainians, and look up how Boris Johnson sabotaged the Istanbul agreement.
Now that that history is out of the way we can talk about the present day. The Russians are completely dominant on the battlefield. The Ukrainian military is in an advanced stage of collapse. Despite this, the Ukrainians and Europeans are continuing to sabotage peace talks by making completely absurd demands (as the party that is LOSING BADLY). The reason this is happening is because the point of the war from the beginning was to weaken Russia. Unfortunately for them this might be the greatest backfire in human history. They are extremely unable to cope with this, hence the hysteria and nonsense.
your brain is fried
Do you literally believe that?
Can you make a cogent counter agreement to any single thing I said in my comment?
Western chauvanists the moment they are faced with disagreement
Dm me when Ukraine wins
Guaranteed the NATO countries, especially the US and UK, have been engaging in offensive cyber warfare against Russia for over a decade, at least.
NATO is a imperialist org. There nothing “fair” about it this is yet another US empire attempt to intimidate and control
how this comment has that many downvotes is beyond me
Probably cause it’s even a little anti-Russia on lemmy.ml