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    Blue states should go ahead with plans to redistrict regardless of what happens. Play for the political landscape you have, not the political landscape you want. The way maps are already gerrymandered nets Republicans 16 seats in the House.

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        CA, if passed, will only be triggered IF a republican state goes ahead. At least that’s how I understand it.

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          Correct. That said, I’ve yet to see the actual text that is being proposed. I’m having a hard time finding that.

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      Blue States simply won’t do this, because they are not part of a coherent national political project.

      They’ll bluff and then hope Republicans fold.

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        I’m hoping that, with the dismal polling for Democrats, the ones who want a future in politics, like Newsom, are recognizing they need to be tougher.

        Maybe I’ll kick the Hopium habit if/when we’re no longer conspicuously moving toward a dictatorship.

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          the ones who want a future in politics, like Newsom, are recognizing they need to be tougher.

          They’re recognizing they need to cuddle up to TPUSA and the AIPAC lobby. Hence Newsom’s choice of podcast guests.

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        CA is moving ahead. It will be on a special election ballot in November.

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          Newsom “called for” a ballot item to answer whether the state legislature should begin to form a committee to consider redrawing districts by… 202(?) Some legislators think they have enough votes to put the item on the ballot. No official word on what that ballot item to tell the legislature to begin the process will look like, of course. And there’s ample opportunity for Republicans to run a bunch of negative ads, for the courts to interfere, and for the national legislature to intercede.

          So they’ve telegraphed a punch two years in advance, while their opposition has tanks camped out in LA for over a month.

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            But that’s how this stuff starts. Someone gets the ball rolling, and that’s what happened yesterday.

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              Dudes just a cynic moving the goalposts so they can wallow in misery. The redistricting could magically happen tomorrow and they’d still be complaining that it’s too little, too late and we’re all doomed.

              Chicken Littles. They don’t want to solve anything, just constantly complain that the sky is falling. The equivalent of someone in a video shrieking instead of helping solve the problem at hand. Creates a lot of stress for others but that’s about it.

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        I bet CA goes through.

        They’re proposing some conditional logic in their legislation. If others do ____, then CA does ____.

        If the other states do nothing, then CA does nothing.

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          They’re proposing some conditional logic in their legislation. If others do ____, then CA does ____.

          Ah, yes. They’re modeling it after the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, another famously effective piece of collaborative interstate legislation.

          If the other states do nothing, then CA does nothing.

          States have been gerrymandering themselves since the 17th century. Texas already pulled this out-of-cycle redistricting shit as recently as 2003, ffs. Its already happened. All the CA Dems are managing in this is to make clear that they’re bluffing.

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            One of those things triggers after a bunch of states fight long hard battles to update their constitutions. The other one triggers as soon as a single opponent gerrymanders.

            It’s also worth noting that CA has only been free of gerrymanders for a little over a decade. The’ve gerrymandered before and they can do it again.

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              The other one triggers as soon as a single opponent gerrymanders.

              Again, the gerrymandering happened two decades ago. This is mopping up.

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    This is clear evidence that if the opposition party fights, they can win. I’m heartbroken that it’s taken this much suffering of people with little political defense to show an example but we’ve made it.

    I pray to whatever thing(/s) that might be out there that Democrats will take this example and fight like an opposition party should going forward.

    Even if it’s selfishly motivated. This strategy will get you votes. See the republicans actions for the past decades

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    Still a bunch of genocide supporters but ill admit im surprised they actually did something more than A Strongly Worded Letter®

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    Nooooooo Democrats are the woooorrrrst! There’s no way I’d vote for them next November when almost everything is on the line again!