It’s important to me for linux users to know how much I despise them
No one is more bitter than a disillusioned ex-believer, and I tried so hard to be an early Linux adopter in the late 90s, early 00s. I was bright eyed and full of hope for an open source future.
Spent 3 years trying to transition to linux as my daily driver, and every time I tried it was just days of frustration and every time I tried to go to any of the various linux forums at the time, all I got in return was literally hundreds of users telling me to read a list of books before I had the right to ask questions.
This happened EVERY FUCKDAMN place I went, forums, usenet, IRC, even oldschool bulletin boards
The worst part about the experience is that the environment is so fractured that every distro is basically it’s own unique thing, with quirks and differences that aren’t apparent to people who haven’t been using them for years already, and that everyone is so fuckdamn hard on depreciating still used functions or just renaming fucking functions for vanity sake
So past forum posts are likely just not going to be helpful anymore, which is a really fucking ridiculous design choice when one of the primary project goals is ubiquitous interoperability and long term support.
Linux is a waste of human energy. Can you even imagine the hundreds of millions of human development hours that went into failed distros and vanity changes being actually used to make one unified fucking amazing OS?
The original dream was a community of dedicated and passionate devs working together to unseat corporate software control
Instead what we got was a thousand fractured groups all doing whatever the fuck they feel like and now you need a fuckdamn college course to figure out which of the thousand distros are for you
Oof, I 100% understand why you have the emotional response to it that you do. A good part of the community back then were hella toxic, and even now, 20+ years later, it’s not that much better. That coupled with the enshittification of search and the death of many of those spaces for help, forums, etc. that I would argue results in a similar level of difficulty, albeit a somewhat different flavor.
But
As yesterday’s empires continue to self-cannibalize it’s highly likely that Linux is going to be the only safe and functional option in the relatively near future. While I understand personally not wanting anything to do with it, you will very likely need to make at least one Linux friend who can help you with those needs.
Well, you did call it a “failed experiment”, that doesn’t sound right when it is the most used OS on the planet, on supercomputers, on servers, on phones.
People answered with a broad response to a broad statement.
Anyway, if this rage is medically induced and this topic seems to trigger you, why not blocking it?
I think you can see how you are not going to convince anybody that your experience 20-30 years ago with Linux is applicable today, especially when people with 0 tech skills manage to daily drive a Linux dietro or use it for gaming. So why doing this to yourself?
Researching IED, avoidance for “situations that upset you” seems to be one of the few recommended prevention mechanisms.
You will get banned anyway eventually from the community, why not just blocking it in advance?
I’m not going to pretend I’ve been a Linux purist my entire life or anything. The landscape for daily driving desktop Linux was really rough in the time period you described attempting to migrate, but I had Linux laptops assigned to each kid in my school circa 2007 and that ignited my interest in the platform. My father was an enthusiast and build a safe environment for me to experiment as a kid when I otherwise would have been out of my depth. I had a Linux box, usually an Ubuntu derivative, around pretty much continuously from 2012-2017 which would have been pre-uni for me and served as just an environment I could easily play with making small web projects and Minecraft mods and whatnot. But I gamed on windows for most of that time. I think when proton hit I failed to install arch and bounced over to Manjaro which was my main gaming distro untill maybe ~2021 when I got tired of things breaking because of the aur and just migrated to arch using the arch install script came out and I was able to set it up trivially. Since then it’s been pretty much “it just works” level compatibility, there are some niche things about my setup that are a little more complicated like some networked pulseaudio stuff and a bunch of development tools I need for work at this point, but overall I have my wife running fedora on her laptop and using a steam deck in desktop mode at her desk and she generally is able to do her schooling and whatnot without issue. I think the only real program she has issues with is an examination specific browser that she has to use another machine in the house for. I have not daily driven windows for the better part of the last decade and while I definitely have frustrations with no great CAD solution and the antagonistic relationship with publishers like EA and Epic Games, I also just am able to play my friendslop and souls games without any issues at all. I’m sorry you had negative experiences with the community, but it’s kinda weird to direct your negative feelings for the losers that gatekept you at the entire platform, particularly when the platform grossly outsizes this particular niche and it’s through the support of countless open source developers that we have the ability to do anything outside of the scope of Windows spyware or the fenced garden that is MacOS.
It’s important to me for linux users to know how much I despise them
No one is more bitter than a disillusioned ex-believer, and I tried so hard to be an early Linux adopter in the late 90s, early 00s. I was bright eyed and full of hope for an open source future.
Spent 3 years trying to transition to linux as my daily driver, and every time I tried it was just days of frustration and every time I tried to go to any of the various linux forums at the time, all I got in return was literally hundreds of users telling me to read a list of books before I had the right to ask questions.
This happened EVERY FUCKDAMN place I went, forums, usenet, IRC, even oldschool bulletin boards
The worst part about the experience is that the environment is so fractured that every distro is basically it’s own unique thing, with quirks and differences that aren’t apparent to people who haven’t been using them for years already, and that everyone is so fuckdamn hard on depreciating still used functions or just renaming fucking functions for vanity sake
So past forum posts are likely just not going to be helpful anymore, which is a really fucking ridiculous design choice when one of the primary project goals is ubiquitous interoperability and long term support.
Linux is a waste of human energy. Can you even imagine the hundreds of millions of human development hours that went into failed distros and vanity changes being actually used to make one unified fucking amazing OS?
The original dream was a community of dedicated and passionate devs working together to unseat corporate software control
Instead what we got was a thousand fractured groups all doing whatever the fuck they feel like and now you need a fuckdamn college course to figure out which of the thousand distros are for you
Fuck linux
Fuck the people who promote it
That is all
Oof, I 100% understand why you have the emotional response to it that you do. A good part of the community back then were hella toxic, and even now, 20+ years later, it’s not that much better. That coupled with the enshittification of search and the death of many of those spaces for help, forums, etc. that I would argue results in a similar level of difficulty, albeit a somewhat different flavor.
But
As yesterday’s empires continue to self-cannibalize it’s highly likely that Linux is going to be the only safe and functional option in the relatively near future. While I understand personally not wanting anything to do with it, you will very likely need to make at least one Linux friend who can help you with those needs.
Undirected rage commenting is not the way.
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The rage bait isn’t even funny anymore lmao, most used OS on the planet btw. Have fun sucking microsoft off I guess
Only for servers, and of course the fact that you are dishonest about the metric just reinforces all I feel towards your ilk
nope, its the most used mobile platform as well and there are far more mobile devices than desktops.
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Offspec said most used OS on the planet and you said only for servers. You’re wrong its not only for servers so it is the most used OS on the planet.
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Well, you did call it a “failed experiment”, that doesn’t sound right when it is the most used OS on the planet, on supercomputers, on servers, on phones.
People answered with a broad response to a broad statement.
Anyway, if this rage is medically induced and this topic seems to trigger you, why not blocking it? I think you can see how you are not going to convince anybody that your experience 20-30 years ago with Linux is applicable today, especially when people with 0 tech skills manage to daily drive a Linux dietro or use it for gaming. So why doing this to yourself?
Researching IED, avoidance for “situations that upset you” seems to be one of the few recommended prevention mechanisms. You will get banned anyway eventually from the community, why not just blocking it in advance?
I’m not going to pretend I’ve been a Linux purist my entire life or anything. The landscape for daily driving desktop Linux was really rough in the time period you described attempting to migrate, but I had Linux laptops assigned to each kid in my school circa 2007 and that ignited my interest in the platform. My father was an enthusiast and build a safe environment for me to experiment as a kid when I otherwise would have been out of my depth. I had a Linux box, usually an Ubuntu derivative, around pretty much continuously from 2012-2017 which would have been pre-uni for me and served as just an environment I could easily play with making small web projects and Minecraft mods and whatnot. But I gamed on windows for most of that time. I think when proton hit I failed to install arch and bounced over to Manjaro which was my main gaming distro untill maybe ~2021 when I got tired of things breaking because of the aur and just migrated to arch using the arch install script came out and I was able to set it up trivially. Since then it’s been pretty much “it just works” level compatibility, there are some niche things about my setup that are a little more complicated like some networked pulseaudio stuff and a bunch of development tools I need for work at this point, but overall I have my wife running fedora on her laptop and using a steam deck in desktop mode at her desk and she generally is able to do her schooling and whatnot without issue. I think the only real program she has issues with is an examination specific browser that she has to use another machine in the house for. I have not daily driven windows for the better part of the last decade and while I definitely have frustrations with no great CAD solution and the antagonistic relationship with publishers like EA and Epic Games, I also just am able to play my friendslop and souls games without any issues at all. I’m sorry you had negative experiences with the community, but it’s kinda weird to direct your negative feelings for the losers that gatekept you at the entire platform, particularly when the platform grossly outsizes this particular niche and it’s through the support of countless open source developers that we have the ability to do anything outside of the scope of Windows spyware or the fenced garden that is MacOS.
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