Here you go, a “real” source. He said there were more bullet ballots than there likely really are, but there’s still a really suspiciously high number of them. How is this not at least worth investigating?

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    Even if every single one of the bullet ballots were invalidated, trump would still win.

    Do we really need to chase after ghosts rather than look at the terrible campaign Harris ran? She ran Hillary’s campaign again, took the left for granted and made stupid campaign stops in Kentucky and Texas rather than focusing on more important matters.

    Harris lost the election running a center right campaign.

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    The key flaw in this idea that fake bullet ballots put Trump over the top ignores the fact that Republicans won House and Senate seats as well.

    If it were bullet ballots, we would have seen split tickets where Trump won but Dems won House and Senate seats at that did NOT happen.

    So, no, this is all specious reasoning from the start.

    Look at the Abortion bill in Arizona:

    https://ballotpedia.org/Arizona_Proposition_139,_Right_to_Abortion_Initiative_(2024)

    Yes - 2,000,287 - 61.61%
    No - 1,246,202 - 38.39%

    3,246,529 votes cast.

    Now look at President:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election_in_Arizona

    Republican - Donald Trump - 1,770,242 - 52.2%
    Democratic - Kamala Harris - 1,582,860 - 46.7%
    Green - Jill Stein - 18,319 - 0.5%
    Libertarian - Chase Oliver - 17,898 - 0.5%

    3,389,319 votes cast.

    There were 142,790 more votes cast for President than in the abortion race, but Trump beat Harris by 187,382 votes.

    Even if all 142K overvotes cast in the Presidential race were fake bullet ballots, Trump STILL would have won by 44,592 votes.

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      “The election wasn’t stolen! And if it was then it actually didn’t matter and he would’ve won fairly anyway”

      What is your point here? Why are you so intent on making sure nobody discusses the evidence that trump stole the election? And why are you so intent on trying (and failing) to debunk it?

      Also I 1000000 percent trust an expert on voting machines over a mod of a random lemmy community. You’re gonna need more than your opinion on how one state went to debunk all of those bullet ballots my guy

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        The point is that the whole notion this guy is putting forward is bullshit and the reason he’s putting it forward is that he’s bad at math.

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    What seems more likely, 1) A vast conspiracy involving the Trump campaign, a group of hackers, Elon Musk and various employees at his super PAC, along with countless other shadowy actors in a cabal that supposedly hacked the vote—an elaborate plot divined by one guy who has gotten nearly every data point verifiably wrong and has provided zero evidence for his related claims, yet somehow “got it right.” Or, 2) A small number of Trump voters simply didn’t care or know much about other offices or candidates and just voted for Trump and left the rest blank?

    Right.

    It’s genuinely sad to watch people grasp at conspiracy theories like this. Conspiratorial thinking is strongly correlated with feelings of insecurity, low agreeability, narcissism, intolerance of uncertainty, a lack of control, fear, and tendencies toward confirmation bias and proportionality bias. So while it’s not entirely surprising to see some on the left indulging in this kind of thinking—just as Trump supporters did and do—it’s still disappointing to witness.

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      Within every election, there is a certain number of bullet ballots to be expected. The norm falls around 1-2% or so, with an expected margin of error. Every swing state (and ONLY swing states). Hit around 5-12%. The percent of bullet ballots has drastically gone down. I think the percent was so hi due to early counts in the week after the election.

      There were 57 bomb threats that targeted ballot counting stations. All in swing states.

      In pretty much every swing states, Trump won the Presidency, but Democrats won pretty much every other down ballot race?

      The polls were pretty much correct for the swing states… except for the Presidency?

      There’s coincidences and then there’s fucking Looney Toons levels of improbability.

      I’m not a conspiracy theorist, but considering all that, you don’t think a single investigation should occur?