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    HE’S A FUCKING MULTI-BILLIONAIRE!!! And now he just gets to walk away. What a fucking joke, our system is.

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    Struck down due to the 8th amendment, which reads, in its entirety:

    Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

    He was fined what he profitted from fraud that the judges agree he committed, plus interest. In what world is that excessive?

    So, if you’re going to steal, steal $500 million or more, because then the government can’t take it back since that would be an excessive fine.

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      He was fined what he profitted from fraud that the judges agree he committed, plus interest. In what world is that excessive?

      Wow… i saw the headlines but didn’t realize this was the case. Not even punitive fines. Literally this is the ABSOLUTE MINIMUM it could be without fraud being profitable.

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        In the 323-page decision, Judge Moulton said that American voters had “obviously rendered a verdict” on Trump’s political career.

        “This bench today unanimously derails the effort to destroy his business,” the judge wrote.

        Judge says voters gave him that money fair and square

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        without fraud being profitable.

        Actually… scratch that.

        With this fine, it actually was profitable. Interest is always lower than what someone could actually earn on the funds if they just dropped it into some broad market ETF, or reinvested it to commit more fraud.

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      It’s ok, they just set a precident that if you steal $100 million or more, you won’t have to pay it back because ots more than your worth, and is excessive. Cool, anyone up to rob a bank?

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    The court made very clear that Trump, his feckless spawn, and the Trump organizing committed fraud. It just ruled that the judgement was excessive. They’re still guilty. There will still be a penalty. It will just be lower.

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      The fine is what he profitted from fraud plus interest. How could that ever be considered excessive? What a joke.

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    Aren’t fraud penalties supposed to be excessive? Like if I could save $20 with fraud, and the fine was a reasonable $20, it wouldn’t just be an ineffective deterrent. It would be a bad financial decision to not commit fraud.

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    Inching closer to Russia every day.

    This is going to be such an awful place to live by the end of our lives.

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    Because of course. As soon as he won the election it was crystal clear that all his legal troubles would either vanish or be postponed for so long that they ultimately wouldn’t matter anymore.